d understand that.
As a research subject, Lecter
has proven most disappointing.
He's simply impenetrable
to psychological testing.
Rorschach,
Thematic Apperception.
He folds them into origami.
As you see.
So you can imagine the stir
your little visit...
is causing among my staff,
Mr. Graham.
lf you'd care
to share some insights--
Dr. Chilton, l'm sorry, l've got
a 4:17 flight back to Atlanta.
Of course.
Tell me,
when you saw Lecter's murders...
their style, so to speak...
were you able, perhaps,
to reconstruct his fantasies?
And, if so, did you jot down
any impressions?
No.
Let me be frank, Mr. Graham.
The first analysis of Lecter
will be a publisher's wet dream.
l'd give you full credit,
of course.
Damn it, man. You must have
some advice. You caught him.
What was your trick?
l let him kill me.
That's the same atrocious
aftershave you wore in court.
l keep getting it for Christmas.
Christmas, yes.
Did you get my card?
l got it, thank you.
So nice of the Bureau's
crime lab to forward that.
They wouldn't give me
your home address.
Dr. Bloom sent me your article
on surgical addiction...
in the
Journal of Forensic Psychiatry.
And?
Very interesting,
even to a layman.
You say you're a layman.
But it was you who caught me.
Wasn't it, Will?
-Do you know how you did it?
-l got lucky.
l don't think you believe that.
lt's in the transcript.
What does it matter now?
lt doesn't matter to me, Will.
l need your advice, Dr. Lecter.
Birmingham and Atlanta.
You want to know how
he's choosing them, don't you?
l thought you'd have ideas.
l want you to tell me them.
Why should l?
There are things you don't have.
Research materials.
Maybe even computer access.
l'd speak to the Chief of Staff.
Yes, Dr. Chilton.
Gruesome, isn't he?
He fumbles at your head like
a freshman pulling at panties.
lf you recall, Will...
our last collaboration
ended rather messily.
You'd get to see the file
on this case.
-And there's another reason.
-l'm all ears.
l thought you might enjoy
the challenge.
Find out if you're smarter
than the person l'm looking for.
Then, by implication, you think
you're smarter than l am...
since it was you who caught me.
l know l'm not smarter than you.
Then how did you catch me?
You had disadvantages.
What disadvantages?
You're insane.
You're very tanned, Will.
And your hands are so rough.
Not like a cop's hands anymore.
And that shaving lotion is
something a child would select.
Has a little ship on the bottle,
does it not?
And how is young Josh
and the lovely Molly?
They're always in my thoughts,
you know.
You will not persuade me
with appeals...
to my intellectual vanity.
l don't think
l'll persuade you at all.
You'll either do it
or you won't.
-ls that the case file?
-Yes.
With photos?
Let me keep them,
and l might consider it.
No.
Do you dream much, Will?
Goodbye, Dr. Lecter.
You haven't threatened
to take away my books yet!
Give me the file, then!
And l'll tell you what l think.
l'll need one hour. And privacy.
Just like old times, Will?
-This is a very shy boy, Will.
l'd love to meet him.
Have you considered
that he is disfigured...
or that he may believe
he is disfigured?
Yeah, the mirrors.
Notice he smashes
all the mirrors...
not just enough
to get the pieces he wants.
And, of course,
those shards in their eyes...
so he can see himself there.
That's interesting.
No, it's not.
You thought of it before.
l had considered it.
-What about the women?
-Dead?
Mere puppets.
You need to see them living,
the way they caught his eye.
That's impossible.
Almost. Not quite.
What were the yards like?
Big backyards, fenced,
some hedges. Why?
Because if this pilgrim...
feels a special relationship
with the moon...
he might like to go outside and look at it.
You ever seen blood
in the moonlight?
lt appears quite black.
lf one were nude, say,
it'd be better to have...
outdoor privacy for that