negotiating
with the West, first,
because he had been already
compromised at one time
and removed by Hitler
from political power.
And this could never be forgotten
either by his foes or by his comrades.
Secondly, he had no ties
to the army or the secret police.
And no one would have sat down
the negotiating table with a statesman
who had no real power behind him.
And, finally,
he was fanatically loyal to Hitler.
London.
London was broadcasting cheerful
music.
The Glenn Miller Orchestra
was playing a composition
from "Sun Valley Serenade".
Himmler liked that film,
and a copy had been bought in Sweden.
Since then the film was often
screened in the basement
of the Main Office
of the Reich Security.
Particularly during
night bombardments,
when it was impossible
to interrogate the prisoners.
So, Gцring and
Goebbels had been excluded.
Bormann or Himmler?
Bormann or Himmler, which of the two?
- Yes, Mister Bolzen?
- Listen, Paul...
Today you can go to town
to your children.
Be back tomorrow by 6 a.m.
And if I'm still here, make me strong
coffee, the strongest you can make.
- All right, Mister Bolzen.
- Now you may go.
Stirlitz was waiting for his agent.
The name of the agent was Klaus.
He was recruited 2 years ago.
He was willing to be recruited.
The former proof-reader
liked to court danger.
He worked like an artiste,
disarming interlocutors with his
sincerity and the bluntness of opinion.
He was allowed to say anything
as long as he delivered
prompt results.
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And here I don't agree with you.
You're so ardently trying to persuade
me that man descended from the monkey,
as if you've met that monkey and
it whispered something into your ear.
Did God whisper into your ear
that He created man?
And the existence of God can't be
proved, you may only believe in Him.
- You believe in the monkey, I in God.
- No.
I believe not in the monkey, but in
the man.
Which descended
from the monkey. Yes, yes...
Did he serve food to you there?
How do you...
You believe in the monkey in the man,
and I believe in God which
is in every man.
In every man? Do you see Him
in the Fuhrer? In Himmler?
I caught him, didn't I?
Yes.
Why don't you
answer my question?
Where's He in the Fuhrer?
Where's He in Himmler?
It's a tough question.
I see you weren't lucky
with your cellmates.
And we had just
amazing debates.
You know, Pastor,
I got my education in prison.
Honestly.
In our cells
there were no easy questions.
I had pickpockets as my cellmates.
With them, you know,
it's not debates that you get.
I see you miss
a good debate.
Well, I don't know...
Thank you.
Thank you.
- Well, how is it?
- Good.
Just delicious, thank you very much.
And what is this?
What is this?
These are the children of my organ
player.
Twins.
He gives them music lessons.
Well, he is not supposed to,
but I allowed him to.
One is out of tune.
Ludwig, the one that is shorter.
Great.
Yes.
Great.
But how about my question?
It's like this.
We're talking with you
about human nature.
Of course, in any of those
scoundrels, Hitler and Himmler,
one might find the traces of,
so to speak, a fallen angel.
But their whole nature had been
so much subordinated to the laws
of brutality, violence and lies
that essentially there has been
nothing human left in them.
No, Pastor, you're evading
a definitive answer.
You know, that skillful habit of yours
to evade definitive answers
had once alienated me from the church.
Wait, wait, but from the camp
you ran to the church.
That's true.
But anyway I know I'm right here.
Because if I were a son of God,
why should I have run from the camp?
I would have just died there,
turning up the other cheek.
What do you mean, "turning up
the other cheek"?
You're projecting
a Biblical parable
onto the real machine
of the Nazi state.
Just think: A parable about
human conscience and Nazism,
a machine which is