agent of the Gestapo.
And what if because of you who
cares about an abstract person,
very concrete people will be hanged in
the morning. Is this important for you?
Yes, this is important for me.
And to be even more concrete, the first ones
hanged will be your sister and her children.
Is this important for you?
It is villainy!
To say that it is not important, who it is
a Communist or an agent of the Gestapo.
It is even greater villainy.
Moreover your villainy is dogmatic,
therefore it is especially terrible.
Sit down and listen to me now.
Your conversation with my agent is
recorded on the tape recorder.
No, I did not do the recording.
He did it all by himself.
I do not know where he is now.
He sent me a strange letter.
I destroyed the recorded tape and
without it no one will believe him.
As far as your sister is concerned,
she will be arrested,
as soon as you will cross the
border of Switzerland.
But I am not going to cross the
border of Switzerland.
You will cross it.
And I will make sure that she
would be out of danger.
You are like a werewolf.
It is extremely difficult to believe you.
You have so many personalities.
You have no choice, except for
believing and trusting me.
And you will cross the border of Switzerland
at least in order to save your relatives.
Yes, I will go in order
to save their lives.
Why aren't you asking, what you will
be doing in Switzerland?
If I would order you to blow up a church there,
you indeed will refuse to do it, right?
You are a clever person and, I am sure,
accurately calculated everything.
What is in my power, and what is
beyond my abilities.
That is very correct.
Do you feel sorry for Germany?
I feel sorry for the Germans.
Don't you think that a peace,
established as soon as possible
- is the only solution for the Germans?
- It is the only solution for Germany.
Sophistry, pastor, sophistry.
The only solution for the Germans,
for Germany, for the humanity.
To die, for us it is not so terrible.
We lived long and are old now.
And we are old single men.
And what about our children?
I am listening to you.
Whom you can name from your old friends
from the joint operation in
the motion of pacifists?
The dictatorship is requiring pacifists now?
The dictatorship does not need pacifists,
they are needed to those, who sensibly
evaluate the historic moment, who understand, that
each new day of the war brings new senseless victims.
Hitler will go to the peace negotiations?
Hitler will not go to the negotiations.
Other people will start them.
But this is a premature conversation about that.
Firstly I should have an assurance, that you will
get connected with the people, who
will help you to start the negotiations with
the representatives of Western countries.
Who could help you with this?
-Is the President of Swiss republic OK for you?
-No.
Those are the official channels.
I am interested in representatives of the
church, who have power in the world.
All workers of the church have
great power in this world.
It would be naive to promise anything
right now, but I think,
I will be successful in discussing this
question with serious people.
Let's say, for example,
the former minister Krauze.
He is respected in the West.
However I will be asked there,
whom do I represent?
If you are asked, who will specifically
conduct the negotiations.
You will ask them, and who specifically
will conduct them from the West.
- But this is through special connections later.
- Through that? Connections?
The details we will identify later.
It is now important the fundamental understanding.
And where are the guarantee, that my sister
and her children will not be hanged here?
Didn't I free you from the prison?
-Do you think that was an easy thing to do?
-I think that was not an easy thing to do.
Do you think, having on hand a recorded
conversation with the provocateur,
where you do scold the Fuhrer, I could
have sent you