what Shtirlitz has to do with it?
Nothing at all.
He just carried out the order.
Special archive, please.
I am Aisman from the 4th department..
Will you please look in the
archive, whether there are
recordings of a pastor
Shlag's questioning
by shtandartenfurer Shtirlitz.
-What if you wouldn't a pastor?
-I am against such a speculative admittance.
Let me rephrase the question then:
Let's say, if you would be defrocked
from the church. Would you then
participate in the fight against the
regime? You already asked me about
that before. Nine days ago. When you
brought me to that cute small restaurant.
Nevertheless, please answer!
Would you start fighting against
the regime, if you would be defrocked
from the church? I do not know.
My entire life I hated violence.
But for any one comes a moment,
when he no longer can bear it.
Were you scared in the prison?
I am scared through all the
11 years of your authority.
That's demagogy.
Were you scared every single day
that spent in the prison?
Yes, every single day.
You wouldn't want to go here again?
If we would assume a miracle,
-that you will be allowed to
walk out free?
-I wouldn't want to have anything
with any of you in general.
And what if I would have a small
condition attached to your freedom?
No, I am not about spying on others.
We have enough informants.
You sure wanted to ask about that?
No, my condition is completely different.
I just want you to maintain with me
good, human relationships.
Do you want me to try changing
my personality or do you want
- me to be a part of your games?
- I want you to be a part of our games.
In such case I must be convinced,
that the goal, which you pursue is
pure good and not evil.
Otherwise it is impossible for me
to answer you positively.
Consider that my purposes are
excess of honesty and goodness.
What will you order me to do?
I closely know a few people of science,
party functionaries and journalists.
No, those are not from the opposition.
They fanatically devoted to the regime.
It would be of a great
interest to me if you
would talk with them.
I will not ask you to write reports
about those conversations,
I may not be sure that there will be
no dictaphones placed behind the wall,
but you can go outside or into the
forest and have a talk there.
I would be interested to hear your
opinion about that degree of evil
or good, which you could identify
in those people.
Could you do such a small
service for me?
Either you excessively entrust me
and are asking for help you because
you can't ask any one else about that,
either you are lying to me, then
this conversation is totally in vain and
we will not find a common ground again.
You will remain a Nazi functionary,
and I will remain a person,
who elects the other way,
in order not to become a
functionary like you.
What would convince you that
I am not lying to you?
Will you please look into my eyes?
Shell we consider this as an
establishment of trust between us?
And that the agreement is almost signed?
Hey you, steppe, you are so wide.
Hey you, steppe, you are
full of freedom and joy.
Oh you, Mother Volga river,
Volga river you are so free
and wonderful.
Get to me the information about
pastor Shlag's behavior in prison.
Everything about his personality,
contacts, conversations etc.
The maximum of details.
The answer, which was prepared in
one hour, proved to be unexpected.
Pastor Shlag was released from the
prison in February 1945.
In his case it was impossible to
understood, if he did agree to work for SD
or his release was the consequence
of other incomprehensible reasons.
In the file there was only a single
Special note from Shellenberg
to let the pastor out under
the supervision of Shtirlitz.
- Is that everything?
- Almost. One more little thing.
A special secret agent worked with pastor
Sharg after his release from the jail.
- Where are his reports?
- He was only directly