what you just said.
The other major change that happened
was that in its original conception,
we didn't know
we were in the middle of a test.
The top of, kind of, the midpoint of...
Once Kirk went off to Starfleet
and you came back three years later,
he was in the middle
of being the captain,
so the intention was originally
to trick the audience into thinking
-he had become captain.
-It felt a little bit like...
-And we went away from that.
-Yeah.
It just felt a little bit like
you saw it coming
in a way that wasn't as fun.
J.J., what about the apple?
-I don't know. It's so funny.
-Where'd that come from.
Someone, I can't remember who it was,
was like, "I hate it when actors eat..."
Maybe it was Josh Reims, "I hate it
when actors eat apples in movies."
And you were like, "We need an apple.
Let's get an apple on set."
For some reason
while we were shooting, I thought,
"You know what? If the guy is eating
an apple, he's so much cockier."
I just love that this is the moment,
this whole sequence is really about that.
It's about, "This is where they cross."
People think it's a reference
to an original Trek episode.
Wrath of Khan.
It's not.
Tyler Perry, who agreed
to be in this movie,
who had never been
in anyone else's movie,
never been on anyone else's set,
and he did this movie,
which I was so grateful for.
He's such a nice guy
and a terrific actor, I thought.
-By the way, to the right...
-I think he is really good.
Ben Binswagner to the right,
who's the biggest Trek fan I've ever met,
an old friend of mine.
So we put him in there.
Who I also don't think had ever been in
anyone else's movie or on any other set.
Only in Tyler Perry's film.
This shot was fun.
We just had these guys
just sitting on the ledge up there.
This is one of those scenes that you
kind of, you know, eagerly await writing
and also are terrified to write.
There's a version, I think,
that's three times as long as this.
-It was a much longer scene.
-There was a lot of stuff,
-and we ended up just trimming.
-And you just realise
what's expendable when you go to it.
But what's so great about it,
you know, is that it's...
Spock actually goes
to a very emotional place here.
Even though he's presenting it
as a logical Vulcan,
he plays the dead dad card.
Which, you know,
is sort of a brutal piece of debating.
Yeah.
That was a set extension shot.
If you look behind Spock,
the green girl is there,
Rachel Nichols' character right there.
She's playing angry in the sequence,
if you watch it, because she was used.
So in the original version of this shot,
of this scene,
she was mad, arms crossed,
because Kirk had used her.
There was actually a second green girl,
as well, later in the movie.
-That was a very funny scene.
-Yeah.
Where Kirk basically goes
and apologises to her.
By the way,
we gotta put that on the DVD, as well.
-That's a great scene.
-That has to be on the DVD.
But actually,
I think a lot of that stuff went away
because Matt Reeves
came to see the movie.
And one of his feelings and concerns
was that we were playing Kirk too cocky.
He hated Kirk.
His note was, "I did not like Kirk."
And we did a pass that was literally to,
you know, answer that.
And that included...
-He also hated green girls, though.
-Good point.
He also hates everybody.
I love McCoy here.
For canon fanatics, we always imagined
that this could have been the way
For canon fanatics, we always imagined
that this could have been the way
that Spock and Kirk
met in either universe.
He always cheated
on the Kobayashi Maru,
as known by Star Trek II.
And the idea that their first meeting
was in conflict was kind of the way
we reverse engineered what
the arc of their characters would be.
If you met them as friends, what's
as far away as you can meet them?
Well, you can meet them as enemies.
That's what I liked about it,
regardless of it being Star

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