have to leave you.
Please, continue the talk. Tomorrow
evening we'll meet again.
Okay, today's talk has been very useful
and laid grounds for further discussions.
And now, General,
the last point
I'd like to clarify.
Tell me...
Who do you see as Chancellor
of the future Germany?
Kesselring.
Kesselring, and nobody else.
He's popular with common people,
young, daring.
Minister of Foreign Affairs?
Von Neurath.
- The former deputy of Czechia and Moravia?
- Yes.
Was he the SS Obergruppenfuhrer?
Like all of us.
I understand.
So, von Neurath.
And who'll be Finance Minister?
Schacht is the only one, who
can be appointed Finance Minister
in the future Germany.
True. Though he's as sly as a fox.
To be a simple financier equals
to condemn everything to failure.
Right, he financed Hitler.
Hitler used to be Schickelgruber
back then.
Hitler was already Hitler back then.
And Minister of Home Affairs?
Who's going to hold Germany in hands?
Wolf?
General Karl Wolf.
SS Obergruppenfuhrer Karl Wolf.
The sooner you forget about the SS
and all the ranks
in the SS hierarchy,
the better it will be not only
for us, but trust me,
for you, too.
General, and how do you envisage
the future of your immediate boss?
You mean Kaltenbrunner?
No.
Himmler.
It will be the next stage in out talks.
Now I can only promise everything
will be done on legal grounds.
Since we want to
forget about ranks
and stick just to names.
And then...
What's the key issue now?
To stop the Bolsheviks,
not to let them into Europe -
that's how I understand
my duty.
And not differently.
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No, it's...
It's total lack of morals.
I don't blame her, I just...
listen to her and can't help
recalling Handel, Bach.
Apparently, in the old days
people of art
were more critical of themselves.
They lived in Faith.
They set super-tasks before them
and were kind of light houses.
And this?
It's common practice to speak like this
in market places.
This singer will outlive herself.
She'll be remembered after her death.
That's indulgence that speaks in you.
It's love for Paris that speaks in me.
And for quite a while, Pastor.
Stirlitz was in France
several months prior
to its occupation by fascists.
And he remembered forever
how those who decided to continue
struggle outside France, were leaving it.
In two hours we'll be at the border.
And now say again
what you are to do
in Bern.
I have a good memory.
The Bible teaches not only kindness,
but how to arrange your memory, too.
But still.
Could you go over it again, please,
from beginning to end.
All right. I'm supposed to stop
at the "Savoy" hotel.
On that very day...
I admit, you really have
a very good memory,
especially considering your age
and the uncommonness of the situation.
I think this plan will work.
He'll set the ball rolling, and very soon.
And now about Kathe.
In case anything
unforeseen happens...
And it can happen,
though it shouldn't,
that she'll tell them about me,
she'll crack under tortures.
But the pastor'll already get it going,
with Pleischner fulfilling my task.
And neither of them knows
what part they played in my operation.
In Bern our people
who've got a signal from Pleischner,
will be watching the pastor.
And everything will work out fine.
These talks are not going to be held,
I won't let Himmler do it.
No way.
Now it's a no go.
Never.
You must make appointments
not in the blue hall, but in the pink one.
You see,
a good memory is fine,
but it won't do any harm to repeat.
Strange, I had an impression you
were not listening to me at all.
I'm listening to you very attentively.
Go on, please.
Today the pastor'll be in Switzerland,
tomorrow he'll get my business going.
Our business, that's more correct.
If the pastor leaves, and everything
is OK, I'll take Kathe out of there.
Then I can put everything on the line.
They're tightening the ring.
And even Bormann won't